Elizabeth Muckermann "Lizzie"

born 8 Sep 1863 in St Louis Mo
died 9 Nov 1891 in Creve Coeur Mo

I dont know much about Lizzie Muckerman. However, because of my Broderickandbascom.com website, people do contact me thru the years. I did get an email from Jeny about a ring she had purchased online.




Sep 2011:
I got a wonderful email today (shown below) from Jeny Mahon regarding a ring she purchased online with the engraving inside "Lizzie Muckermann".     Jeny explains she would like to get this ring back to the family of Lizzie.

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Original email from Jeny Mahon in 2011

Sept 14, 2011
Hello, my name is Jeny Mahon and awhile back I bought an antique pink gold cameo ring on a jewelry website belonging to a guy in I think NY who just sold random pieces, some antique and some not. I love antique jewelry (my engagement ring is a Edwardian/Nouveau ceylon sapphire in platinum and diamonds) and this ring was a bargain so I bought it. When I received the ring I found an engraving on the inside of the band in old script. I couldn't read it very well and thought it said, "Lizzie Mucklemann" and didn't find anything on that name.

Just today I decided to try again and my co worker (who is 14 years younger and has much better eyes than I do!) told me it said "Muckermann". Once she said that, it was obvious that was the right name. Of course when we googled Lizzie Muckermann we came up with your site! As soon as I originally saw the name inside I wanted to return it to the family, but I didn't have the name right until today. It's not very often jewelry is engraved and can be traced back to a family. So are there any Muckermanns still around who might know if this is their ancestor's ring and/or would like to have it? It's prtetty cool :) I'm not asking for any money, I'd just love to have it go back to the family.
~Jeny Mahon

Sept 17, 2011
This is wonderful.   My grandmother is Elizabeth Muckerman, but I believe it was generations prior where the name was Muckermann and it was changed to one n.   I see a Lizzie born 1863.  Let me research this further and get back with you. ~Jeanne Shelton

Sept 21, 2011
Hi Jeanne, Great! I'm happy I found the right person :) Her birth year fits in perfectly, the ring looks like late 19th c. to me. I've attached some photos.
Talk to you soon,

Sept 21, 2011

Oh my gosh. What a beautiful ring. I have contacted the family, and it is actually a different Lizzie. We have 2 of them in the family.

We have 3 serious geneologists in the family. I have the website, one lady did a binder and distributed it to everyone with the names and birth/married/death dates for everyone including my children, and it is very current. The third did an absolutely fabulous book that is about an inch thick, and it has gorgeous pictures of this Lizzie.

I have narrowed it down to the exact family. Now we need to see which person exactly needs to get the ring. I'll be in touch.

You are so generous to do this. I surely wish it was my blood line!!!! My grandmother was Elizabeth, but she was not the right generation, and she was "Betty" not "Lizzie". Oh well. It is truly a joy to me to be somewhat of a history detective to find this stuff out.

Dec 2015
I never heard who actually got the ring. i would love to figure this out and will follow up on this.



Notes from 2011:

Could it be Elizabeth Clara Muckerman 1872?

I have researched my direct line, and find only one possibility, which is

  • Elizabeth Clara Muckerman (b 13 Jun 1872, d 25 Oct 1963), who is the daughter of Christohper Herman 1840. Elizabeth had plenty of kids.
  • This could be the original owner of the ring, but not her kids as they were Sanders.
    However, I dont believe this is the correct "Lizzie" because every child of Christoper Herman 1840 has already changed their name to have only one N.

    And it could not be anyone born after 1918 as the name was then Muckerman, one N, as per one of the 3 family books I have in my possession (Jeanne) as of 2011.

    I believe it is most likely Elizabeth "Lizzie" Muckermann 1863-1891

    We dont have much information at all on this "Lizzie". She died at 28 years old, and we have no children listed. However, we have hundreds of decendents listed from all ofthe descendents from the original 3 brothers from Germany. So either we are missing this inormation and Lizzie did have children, or she died young and did not have children.

    However, Lizzie did have siblings, and I have found a granddaughter of one of these siblings that I am trying to contact. I have left a voicemail at a phone number, and as of Sep 2011, I am anxiously awaiting her phonecall.